Vanessa Goomanson Likes Older Men



THE DIRTY ARMY: Nik meet Vanessa Goodmanson. She likes to parade around Hollywood bragging about how she is a playboy model. She doesn’t have a real job and likes to let older men pay for her living expenses. She also likes to hang out with Freddy Fags (first sign of being an escort). Vanessa Goodmanson you really need to fix your sleep circles because everyone in Hollywood knows. Nik whenever I see these girls at the Playboy Mansion I think of homeless souls who are worse than prostitutes.
Hugh Hefner’s brother sure does get a lot of ass. I heard he is in charge of the leftover scraps or JV squad/broken girls who are on pills.- nik









OK.
I always talk about how old I am.
So just for the record… I am NOT that old.
Thank you.
I smashed it, she was aiiight
That’s Smokey Robinson a legend
This does NOT look like a fun life.
She must of had a boytoy on the side becausee she recently got out of a relationship with that tatted fool Scott Sparks. They were so obnoxious on instagram uploading pics of each other. Someone should tell these old men
Vanessa is my bestfriend & the sweetest girl you’ll even meet!!! Whoever wrote this needs to get a life and stop getting into hers! She is so not a escort just because we hang out with Freddy doesn’t mean anything he is only a good friend…. Plus these picture with Hef’s brother are over a year old! Stop judging a book by its cover…
Ashley your ugly and fat! so shut up!
Vanessa is a complete whore! You can judge a book by it’s cover, because there is always some truth to rumors, hello that’s how they get started in the first place.
I know for a fact she will add ANY man to her Facebook,
and many of them have girlfriends & wives, does she care? No. The girl just wants attention, and money from old men.
LA is full of Gold-diggers & she is one of them. Now she has two Facebook accounts because she is such an attention whore, I model, I only add people I know in the industry not every man who sends a request. Also, showing your breasts in Playboy does NOT make her a Playboy Model, and she has never & will never be a Playmate.
Wow “Tanya” nice name
you’re just mad that your boyfriend who doesn’t claim you is on Vanessa’s jock. We laugh at you. You’re hardly a model, you’re a groupie. Funny you posted this on Aug 11 her bday because your man was texting Vanessa saying how he wanted to be with her that night. He’s been blowing her up since you guys started dating. You are a joke, while your whining they are skyping. Oh and Vanessa doesn’t pay attention to who she accepts on Facebook…they are fans dumbass. Oh and how ignorant for you to think she isn’t a playboy model considering she’s been in 2 magazines and has a cyber girl pictorial and video among many other things. Go cry yourself to sleep bitch xoxo
My man wasn’t skyping Vanessa’s ass on her birthday, first of all because he was home with me all night. Second, I was talking about my brother who is in the Air Force and will be in Germany for the next 3 months….Third of all, I was also talking about her adding my best friend’s man, who has since deleted her….So get off her fucking nuts “Laura” and get a life of your own rather than defending an obvious & admitted escort who sells herself for sex via FB & Freddy Figs Pimp Service.
Peace out!
The girl is a straight up whore Freddy Figs pimps her out just as he no doubt pimps you out too you thirsty, dirty whore!
LOL…This has to be a joke! You “ladies” are fighting on the dirty about some dude and i’m sure right now he is out screwing another broad. Anyways, i have to agree with miss Tanya, Vanessa IS a complete whore! She has sex with every guy in town and i heard her p-ssy smells.. I’ve seen her around town, on facebook and Instagram posting a bunch of pictures and acting like she is famous..I’ve seen this girl up close and i have to say thank GOD for photoshop! She is hideous! She is def NOT a playboy model but is going around town telling everyone that she is. She was on “playboy live” showing her tits and flat ass on a daily ..She dated Mr. Hefners brother because she thought that would help her chances of becoming a playmate…LOL That just shows how ugly she really is..even after screwing him she’s still not a playmate!! And will NEVER be..poor thing
haha I think “miss Tanya ” and “nunya” are the same poster awww how cute a stalker … Why are you soo obsessed with this girl anyway? This was posted over a month ago and now you wanted to comment. You had to have searched pretty high and low…pathetic. Oh well you ladies have fun stalking Facebook, twitter, and instagrams. Jealousy is unattractive and yes I am going to stick up for my friend. Vanessa could give a fck less about any of this and actually loves that u ladies stalk her life, me I think it’s sick. Oh well haters gonna hate. Let’s see how long it takes to get a response back…that last one was a test
LOL omg! is it not obvious that this is Vanessa responding about herself?? I mean clearly you have no life because you keep checking to see who is posting about you. Get a life girl! You should get an education because your looks have definitely faded and you look a mess. Still posting pics of yourself and “claiming” to be a playboy model?! Everyone around town sees you for exactly what u are.. a washed up 30 year old, who doesnt have a man of her own, who shows her tits and ass for pennies, who does photo shoots for free and the pics never end up published anywhere, who if you google your name NOTHING COMES UP ABOUT PLAYBOY,(besides being painted a couple of times) and who is just pathetic and has no real friends. I’m a real model and have been published many times. I’m younger and hotter than you and i dont need to post pics of myself to validate who i am. Face it..you are a WHORE Vanessa!
It is 100% obvious to me, that Vanessa/Laura/Obsessed Much?
Are ALL the same person, either Vanessa,
or one of her whore/escort friends who wanted to defend her slutty ass against the truth found on The Dirty, hahahahaha!!!
i can tell she is upset, if she wasn’t she would not bother commenting at all, the only types of people who feel like defending themselves are the ones who need it….
Yet she still did NOT defend her escort services with Freddy Figs!!! LOL
Everyone who is anyone in LA knows that Freddy is a Pimp!!! Vanessa Goodmanson,
Kimmy Salisbury, Kina Tavarozi, and a whole bunch of LA whores are on his payroll, I refuse to leave Cali just bc it is full of Freddy’s Whores, let them leave!
Have a great week Nunya
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No baby THIS is Vanessa
if you are a real model why are you hiding under a pussy ass alias haha? Googling me? Aww how cute you creepy troll. You are fan, hey at least you have good taste? Keep up honey, obviously I’m doing something right to get under that skin of yours. I relish in that <3 I have no fucks to give. I love this baby keep stalking Xx
Well i had to see for myself what all the hype is about. Didnt miss much i see;). My friend told me this slut was on the dirty and i can see why! Vanessa slept with my friends man and now she claims he is texting her all the time, and wants to be with her. Wrong!! Yea if you make it that easy for a guy to smash of course he’ll take it! And then he laughed about what a boring lay she was..hahaha! This girl is such a mess. Find a man of your own u trailer trash wannabe playboy model! You are so ugly and trashy I cant even believe you really think you are some real model. How old are you anyways??? You cant really believe that at your age you are still a “model”. Your like almost old enough to be my mom:) Leave other girls men alone and go find one of your own. Although i know its hard seeing that you’ve f–ked all of LA already. My friend is way hotter than you and a good person. You are obviously jealous. Everyone google her name and you will find out she is a fraud!
Tanya nunya and brown barbie = same 500 lb creep behind a keyboard haha jealous much troll?
Laura+obsessed much+haha=VANESSA’S ugly ass creeping behind her computer!!! Babe do me a favor please!!!! Google your name right now and post on here where it says A: that you were a cyber girl..B: That you are a playmate..or C: That you are even a special editions playboy model!!!! LOL. You were the lowest on the todem pole..playboylive!!!?? come on baby girl..you have to come harder than that! You are the one who is obsessed and insecure. I’m 20 years old and your like 10 years older than me..Haha you could never get under my skin babe, your not capable of such a task. You wish somebody would stalk you thats why you keep posting pics of yourself with no clothes on…desperate much?? get some class girl, i know its hard for someone like you being that you come from a trailer:) haha go take some growth hormones girl and get on my level;)
Nunya baby your too much you make me laugh… Now lucky for you I don’t talk shit to fans
get on my level baby and quit this google ishhh you sound creepier with each post. Get off my dick! Now I’ve lowered myself to your troll level, sigh… Quite frankly im dissapointed…you are boring me:( I thought you would have a little more in ya than that yet you’ve proven to be same jealous hating 500 lb troll behind a keyboard. I have to let you go baby haha …no more responses from me …keep staking
good will hunting xo
Well You just confirmed that you are a straight up nut job Vanessa! Why are you posting under hahaha and Obsessed much?? You want to prove that somebody actually has you back? Wrong once again!! Fans? Hunny you have no fans. Just ugly insecure men who cant get in touch with REAL models (because they are actually traveling and getting PAID shoots) so you are the only one who is so thirsty that you reply to all these weirdos!! haha, its kinda funny but sad at the same time! Get off you dick? Thanks for confirming that you have one. I knew you looked kinda manly..haha! Get a real job old lady, your gonna need it! And i love how you keep redirecting the conversation when i say the word google…touchy subject for you im sure cause you know im telling the truth..YOU ARE NOT A PLAYBOY MODEL.!!! haha sad!
Nunya & Brown-Baby, IDK who you are but I like you both, mad props to you both for speaking your mind, as I am.
Whores have got to go!!!! I’m no hater of models, or Playmates *when they are actually Playmates*
I am however, a hater of whores, Vanessa is one,
I didn’t even google her until I heard my brother added her,
he has since deleted her skany ass.
You notice that no one is saying that she is NOT as escort?
Vanessa supposedly commented herself, and yet no denial,
LOL!!! That whore is probably spreading STDs and worse breaking up relationships. I like how “Laura” assumed I was talking about myself, when I wasn’t my man gave me his password & that whore is not on his Friends list thank God~
Dirty whores make it tough for all girls to find a decent man, take your saggy titties, and whore-self and get a real job,
instead of whoring yourself out to old/married men for $!!!
It may have taken me 6 years to graduate college, but I got my degree the old fashioned way, I earned it babes! I wearned it by working retail & waitressing. I doubt Vanessa & Laura are educated beyond High School, or should I say G.E.D girls?
Have fun & good luck when you TRY to settle down and no one wants a busted broken beaten up vag!!!
Hahaha the bitch I’s a fake that’s not even her real name she’s so trashy old n fake putting her on blast dirty!!!!
VANESSA MARIE GOODMANSON – LA biggest cum dumpster !!!!
Vanessa’s stalker is Kristie Wynter lol and posts her on here ..all comments are from this broad!! She is 40 years old and Playboy wouldn’t even throw her a bone Hahahaha. She is ashy and needs to put some grease in that hair of hers. She got worlds worst nose/tit job. Kristie Wynter has herpes and god knows what other diseases.
hahaha, Vanessa Goodmanson!! Sorry to burst your bubble baby….Kristie doesnt need to post you on here…haha, you have enough enemies throughout L.A. that already put your dirty tranny ass on here:) haha You need to get a nose job bitch!! And you need to fix those nasty horse teeth, take those fake contacts out, stop bleaching your bald head and stop sucking cock for free you dirty whore! You in fact have herpes Vanessa!! Remember you told me years ago cause you didnt know what to do:) I went to the clinic with you and you cried all night when you found out….awwwww your secret is out boo!! Your 30 years old and were rejected by playboy and fucked Hef’s brother and he DUMPED YOU!! hahahaha, dying laughing at you bitch!
Vanessa you are a dirty piece of shit! You are 30 years old bitch and still think you are a real model! haha, you dont even get paid shoots…you were rejected by playboy and you cant even get into the mansion anymore;) hahaha poor thing! Herpes having bitch! You spread disease to men and you dont even care! Your gross and look like a Garbage pail kid!! haha go get those horse teeth fixed boo;) and get a tummy tuck while your at it! haha
I know Vanessa from twitter and Facebook, she is always nice, friendly, and funny. I think blasting her as a person is wrong and immature. She can do as she pleases as long as it doesn’t hurt others. Love you Vanessa!
Kristie Wynter how funny you keep accusing people of having herpes ..you’re the one who has it u insecure bum bitch. Steve Bing did you bareback ..you were the trick of the week. Story of your life. Vito your bf who works at the mall cheated on you with someone at the apt complex!!! Haha we are all clowning your sorry ass. Too bad you had ur nose done and it still looks like an ape, not to mention your boulder tits..HACK job! Btw you really should potty train ur kid loser, how embarrassing at 10 yrs old he wets the bed. Leave Vanessa’s life alone and get a hobby xo
Bitch please! Steve did me bareback.?? haha, well i think everyone knows thats def a lie! haha but keep trying..Vanessa does in fact have herpes dirty skank and so does Dalia…Ashantee prob has AIDs from fucking dudes in ATL bareback…ewwwww haha! I’m dying at your lame asses! my man wouldnt ever cheat on me boo:) haha Jealous cause your pale ass 60 year old cant get hard?? Wait Dalia didnt you have 2 nose jobs and your big ass ARAB nose is still making me laugh! those tits you have are circa 1980 bitch just like your weave!and ur talking about mine..mine are perfect:) hahaha, and my kid is 8 and again has more money in his little bank account than all of you tranny’s!! Ashantee why dont you go take care of your kid you fuckin cunt! when was the last time her retarded ass saw her mommy!!?? bahahahaha wait she’s what 5..and cant even put together a sentence??? bitches please!!!!!
Blahahaha can someone pass me the mic. Ok retarded??? Bitch she’s smarter than you. Were lame but you made this post dumb ass and u stalk oiur page everyday. Wait didn’t you hack my Facebook page and delete my modeling pic who does that though. Wait dont you have a pimp. Wait dont your man sleep on a matress??? Wait dont your son have a.d.d and he still pissed in the bed which is why your ex dumped your ass. Wait isn’t your apartment under your exs name??? Because you have bad credit?? Wait you didn’t buy your recent car your ex did isn’t your ex like 58 years old??? But Vanessa likes old men?? Wait aren’t you the same ge as ur ex??/ wait didn’t you get mad when I met your guy last year and you thought he was flirting with me and you flipped the fuck out. Hold wait you look better than me??? I can’t blahahahaha your killing me. Girl get a life ur pathetic you sit at the computer and stalk us sign up as different people just to comment on here your the only hater we have ur pretty sad wynter get it together and as you would say Stop the fucking madness. Grow up I’ll let Vanessa and dalia finish your ashy ass off. Btw everyone follow me on twitter and instagram @pbivyamor. Btw where is your rn check stub that you allegedly have. Oh please stop fucking gay old men its pretty pathetic
Hey Wynter why don’t u post a photo of your check stub instead of posting your hooker money? Oh wait – because u don’t have a real job, you suck old balls for money and you have HIV.
Yes Wynter stop the madness!! Haha posting sloppy ass hoes pretending they are actually your friends. Please stop making it so Easy on us. Kristie Wynter was only good for one fuck in the ass by Steve Bing. You have no friends bitch. Sorry Kristie your faux friend ratted you out about your herpes, she found out when she tag teamed with you that 60 yr old. Please Cuban? You’re nothing but a black chick wishing she was white or at least Brown. The only thing I see is teeth in your pics. Your measly 1,000 twitter followers must be so sick of you. Constantly talking about us haha. Thanks for being such a loyal fan, Wynter
hahaha, hey Ashantee!! Wait haha did i hack into your facebook bitch?? or did u give me ur password dumb ass!!! My man flirting with YOU..haha bitch please! he said you were thicker than me and in his eyes that means fat….haha! and he actually said you were UGLY and looked like a man:) sorry! And also my ex Jim…yes the one who bought me my 2009 mercedes benz for 39,000:) haha he also said after seeing your pics that u look kinda manly!! ooppss!! haha, my baby pees the bed..haha right! ive never been left by any man boo….and Jim is on my jock til this day:) haha And wait dont you live at your moms ghetto ass house in the fuckin hood bitch??? haha, wait but ur a boss??? haha, u aint got a car bitch!! I make 6 figures a year and your gonna say i dont have a real job..go look me up hoe!! wait didnt you tell me your babydaddy is broke and aint paid for your retarded ass daughter in years? oh and didnt he fuck your friend on your bed? haha, ur pussy is wack bitch…all your men cheat on you and leave you…haha! you’ll never be as pretty as me bitch! you look 40 real talk! you fuck dudes in ATL without a condom hoe..how stupid are you?? haha! log out bitch…your broke!
This Wynter west chick needs a mental evaluation and a trip to a spa to cleanse some of her anger… Maybe also consider a trip to the
Is this Kristie Wynter chick for real?? She really on here bragging about a 30,000 dollar car? Yet she was hating hard on Dalias SUV and Vanessa’s 100,000 dollar BMW?? Laughs!! Please! Show us your check stub tranny you ain’t no nurse
Lets be real! My man paid for my benz in cash hoe!! its a $50,000 dollar car but cause my ex had it like that he got the cash price and only paid 39,000 bitch!! haha something you tricks will never get… haha, i got it like that i aint gotta buy my own shit ever…Vanessa you drive a 1999 BMW!! bwhahahahahahahahhaahaha that is the biggest joke of the century!! That shit cost 11,000 dollars hoe!! i almost died when i saw the price..;)Dalia your car is 50 grand…I got that stuffed away in my sock drawer hoe!! And honestly Dalia your car is a joke! I would NEVER buy that benz…it looks like an old 60 year old should be driving it..hahahaha
Bitch! My daddy is Cuban!! haha u mad???!! Cause your dad is a nasty ass mother fucker from Iran!! bitch please! Dalia go suck a dick! and Vanessa i think its hilarious that SUDDENLY your claiming to be “latin”, but a couple years ago you were having “white girl problems”..bitch please! your not fooling anyone! You wanted sooooo badly to be white like your friend Ashley who is a real blond;) haha your ass was trying so hard to be white. Blue contacts, blond hair?? bitch stop it!!!!! And you were stalking my girl Crystal like it was going out of style..u wanted to be her u fuckin weirdo!!!!
Why when we worked at playboylive were you scared of me and told the staff not to schedule us on the same day???? bahahahhaha yea they told me hoe!!! what a scared ass bitch! You tried to get me fired but they knew who was making WAY more money in private chats:) MEEEEEEEE Now you wanna act bad when you were sneaking to your car out the back door at the studio?? hahaha im dying at your crack head ass…you herpes having whore bag!
Vanessa i have a real question for you..Why havent you been in playboy? You fucked Hef’s brother couple years back… was your pussy that bad?? hahahahaha you know thats sad when you fuck the bosses brother and YOU STILL CANT GET IN THE MAGAZINE…you pretend to be a playboy model when really all you did was playboy live! You like to say all i got was playboylive but hunny hate to break the news to you…thats all you got hoe!!! And that little bootleg shoot to get on playboy.com..yes they wanted me to go but i decided to go to work instead and make $600 a day instead of making only $100 for the whole day:) hahahahaha bitch please!
Kristie Wynter has no friends no life no nothing so she resorts to stalking people who want nothing to do with her. Kristie you smell like a black turd and you hide behind computers acting tough. It’s entertaining but getting kinda old. Old like you…. Go clean your bastard kids filthy sheets you poor excuse for a human
Please Ape, you ain’t shit on here bragging about a 30,000 dollar car ha! Now her stories changed up to a 50,000 car lol… #pathologicalliarproblems. 11,000 hahaha now you’re fooling yourself. Wtf are you talking about Playboy Live gave you scraps HA must really have sucked to work around my schedule. That’s all you got was Playboy Live, playboy denied you’re ass! Apparently they don’t accept apes ..tough crowd..better luck next time. Oh wait you’re 40 years old you’re time is up. I hear your man Vito tho is a winner, mattress, scion, and tried to get with both my girls. I don’t blame him Dalia and Ashantee run circles on your bum ass. Kinda gives me De Ja Vu when your man Steve got with my asian friend Michelle and your ass got butthurt. He tried moves on me too, that shit was funny. And are you really claiming Cuban. Nah you blacker than night. I gotta say though Wynter I get a great laugh from you..you’re pretty predictable and have a 20 word vocabulary. Nobody is scared of your ass, we purposely checked to every place in OC in hopes you might stalk us like you do. I even went to Pelican Hill where you couldn’t even afford a buffet. Poor Dalia, glad she tossed you in the gutter where you belong, that wasn’t a good look for her. You need material boo..the BMW..Keith Hefner stuff is getting boring. Keith said you were hideous and that’s coming from a guy who dates black girls. Keep staking us Ape, it’s quite flattering Xo
Bitch please! You lie so much your even starting to believe ur bs stories!! haha, bitch Keith tried to get with me several times boo and you already know i could have gone there but i’m not into fucking 90 year olds…I’ll leave that for thirsty midgets like yourself! You were in the mag twice??? bhahahahah show me where bitch!! your a fucking liar! You showed your dirty pussy to the world on playboylive cause thats all your ugly ass could get! Love how ur talking about Steve who YOU FUCKED when i was in the room with you..hahaha! and he said your pussy was loose as fuck! hahah, now if he was my man do you really think i would have let you nasty herpes having ass fuck him?? hahaha girl please! you were a desperado then and your a desperado now hoe!!! haha, cant afford a buffet? haha bitch please! me and my man are at pelican resort every other week! hahahaha thats rookie shit! i dont have to pay, my man pays for me! something you will never know cause you date broke jokes who have to RENT expensive cars to look cool..hahaha, ask Dalia who tossed who boo!! haha that bitch was obsessed with me then and clearly she is STILL obsessed with me now! hahaha love how your friend Ashley dumped your midget ass and is hanging with actual hot girls now..hahaha! ur NOT a good look for anyone boo except for Ashantee’s broke and and Dalias fuck for $300 trick ass:) keep stalking me though…i’m flattered! And FYI you ignorant 3rd grade school level dummy Cubans are black!!!! hahahahaha do your research ugly bitch before you assume you know something:) jealous much!!!???
Bitch you ain’t even worthy to talk to me. I got trannies in West Hollywood who look better than you.
Vanessa is An amazing person who is beautiful fun and great to be around. I can understand why she has a hardcore hater because she’s a sweetheart who is also sexy. Love u Vanessa!
Wasn’t scared of you boo I just loved
Pissing you off. How embarrassing for YOU that you had to work around MY schedule hahaha what you only got one day?? I wouldn’t brag about how your Brillo pad Vadge was on full display for PB live while you banged your herpes infested pee hole. Haha is this chick really getting cocky over webcam?? Oh that’s right that’s the only bone playboy threw at her. Sorry love I was in the magazine Twice plus Cyber Club…that’s gotta sting that you’re a 40 year old ape who has to front like she’s a nurse to save face.
Hey Kristie Wynter did you get a prescription to your herpes yet? Playboy live viewers says they saw a little bump action down below
kristie Wynter is there going to be a day where you don’t talk about Vanessa…nah you are in love with her. Who we fooling
Vanessa you are the one obsessed…why the fuck you keep stalking my post hoe!! haha i have no friends????? hahahahahahaha girl..u have ONE! Dalia’s tranny ass…yea your friend who fucks for 300 dollars!! haha whay happened to the girls you were hanging out with??? oh they dumped your ass as a friend just like i did!!! you ugly herpes having midget!
Vanessa why are you fronting like your a model hunny! Everyone knows that the real modeling age is 18-24 bitch!!! you missed your opportunity by five years bitch! time to look into something else..like maybe sucking dick for coke! oh wait your already doing that;)!!! Your 4’9, fat, ugly, bad skin, fake hair, fake contacts i mean where do you draw the line??
Vanessa stop buying twitter followers! its pathetic! You have like 17,000 followers and only 10 different people tweeting you??? hmmmm doesnt add up!! bhahahahaha
Stop it Wynter you’re making me blush. Apparently Apes can’t do math haha ..and hey weren’t you 31 when we hung out years ago…stop it lol .. Like I said #pathologicalliar
Kristie Wynter sleeps on a cruddy mattress and is almost 40. Nuff said.
A crusty mattress Vito uses to fuck that certain someone. I like the girl so I’m not going to throw her name out there. And good for her on fucking Vito while Wynter is with him
Can burnt out midgets count??? Bitch i’m 32!! Your what 28??? hahahaha and still claiming to be a model??? Girl stop the madness! You fucked hefs brother to get into playboy and ur ass is still waiting on a call back!! ahahahaha and you do photoshoots for free..nuff said….you are the #pathalogicalliar but you are very entertaining i must say! even your ex friend says you lie about everything;) oooppppppss
Smokey Robinson is a legend!!!
Wynter you are a sad whore
All the back and fourth is pretty gay. Everyone needs to get back to reality now. If you don’t like each other then you’ve all said what you had to say. Feel better now? Time to move on ladies! Thanks
Vanessa does in fact have herpes! She told me herself:( I felt so bad for her! Sorry boo your secret is out!!
Vanessa one question. If your so famous and did sooooooo much for Playboy? Why the fuck do you only have 18,000 twitter followers?? bhahahahahaha real playboy models or playmates have at least 50,000! sorry boo you fail!!
Damn this ape is still talking about me?? Wow borderline obsession. I suggest you stop flopping your horse gums or else you will be posted again;) didn’t you fight so hard to be taken down? Plus ur retard Vito will be taken care of boo..love you xoxo !!
I love Vanessa, and clearly she’s doing something people like if she has over 18k followers. Now move on with your lives ladies. This is so childish. Thanks