What Is HIV Positive- Undetectable? #DirtyArmy Commenter Assists!

What Is HIV Positive- Undetectable? #DirtyArmy Commenter Assists!

THE DIRTY ARMY: Nik, saw this in the comments and thought it was a good educational piece for #TheDirtyArmy. FYI: “HIV positive but undetectable means that one has HIV but the most recent viral load in the bloodstream is so low that it cannot be detected by standard lab draws. This is the best outcome for an HIV positive person. The virus itself will never leave your body, but if it exists in extremely low levels, whether naturally or with medical therapy, there is a significantly low chance of transferring the virus through sexual contact or developing AIDs. One has to re-check the viral loads throughout the remainder of natural life, and if they begin to rise, initiating/changing HAART therapy can help them return to low levels. Hope this helped!”

SO… you are saying it’s ok to have sex with randoms who have undetectable HIV.- nik

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  1. The lab bitchSeptember 29, 2017 at 11:45 AM

    You still can get hiv even if their viral load is undetectable. I wouldn’t sleep with anyone with any sort of previous positive hiv test. It can still be contracted even if it is at such low levels it isn’t detected. That just means their therapy is working well, they still are hiv positive and can still infect someone else. It’s not something to mess with and don’t sleep with someone just because the virus is at undetectable levels, they still have hiv and it will roar it’s ugly head up again down the road when the medications stop working. It’s a retro virus, so it’s always changing and eventually, the medication that is making it undetectable will not work any longer and it will go back to high levels. This is coming from a person who has worked in the lab for over 18 years with this sort of thing. Do not expose yourself just because their levels are undetectable right now, they are still hiv positive and can infect people just as if their levels were higher. There is no safe way to get around this. The hiv viral load is how many copies the virus has in your blood system and even if people sleep together that both have hiv they should still use protection because there are different genotypes still and you may have different ones.

  2. The DoctorSeptember 26, 2017 at 1:17 PM

    Good afternoon,
    I made the original comment. I just hope to clarify, I am not advocating sex with randoms at all, whether HIV+ or not, as this is generally an unsafe lifestyle.
    In terms of having sex with an HIV+ person with undetectable loads, while the risk of transmission can never reach zero, the current research suggests a very low chance of transmission (<4%). Each person will have to decide for themselves whether or not it is worth the risk.
    The ongoing PARTNER study is looking at hundreds of hetero/homosexual couples with the HIV+/undetectable partner taking the HAART regimen. In the last two years there has been no documented case of HIV transmission in these couples. This is good news, as it means that those in our community who are HIV+ have a means beyond sexual abstinence to prevent the spread of HIV–but ONLY if they are responsible and compliant with their medical therapy. Sadly, many are not…

    Ultimately, if you plan on having sex with an HIV+/undetectable individual, it would be within your best interests to ask for proof of the viral load, and to ensure that it was done within the last 3-4 months.
    Plus, as someone pointed out, anyone with HIV must legally disclose their status to any potential partners.

    Once again, I hope this helped!

    Source: http://www.aidsmap.com/No-one-with-an-undetectable-viral-load-gay-or-heterosexual-transmits-HIV-in-first-two-years-of-PARTNER-study/page/2832748

  3. Georgia97September 26, 2017 at 11:02 AM

    Ummm…..no. I would rather light myself on fire and run through a meth lab. And no, I don’t need a match.

  4. Gladly, The Cross-eyed BearSeptember 26, 2017 at 8:56 AM

    If you plan on “sex with randoms” it might be wise to get on PreP. But neither PreP nor Undetectable Viral Load will protect you from the plethora of other STDs out there, some of which can be fatal. Condoms are still a good idea.

  5. RealpSeptember 26, 2017 at 7:51 AM

    You still have to disclose if you have HIV… look at Usher.

    • Nik RichieSeptember 26, 2017 at 9:52 AM

      That’s what I thought. If not, that’s attempted murder.